The High Value Man Conversation

Most Men Don’t Have Close Friends - They're D*ing Faster Because Of This

Erin Alejandrino & Josh Lashua Season 3 Episode 27

1 in 5 men have no close friends, and it’s taking a toll on their mental health, happiness, and overall well-being.

The truth is, loneliness kills, and the myth of the "lone wolf" is just that—a myth. Real strength comes from building genuine friendships and surrounding yourself with men who have your back.

In this episode, Josh and Erin dive deep into the power of brotherhood and how true friendships can be life-changing.

They share actionable tips on how to build epic friendships by first becoming the kind of friend you need in your life

 If you’re feeling isolated or stuck, this episode will help you break through the barriers and find the connections that matter most.

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Speaker 1:

So you know, putting yourself in rooms where you're the new guy like that's the first place to start. If you can't come out to Frisco and join us, the High Value man community is another room to be in. You have vision, core values and alignment. You have the openness of conversation, transparency, when you're able to really talk about things that matter faith, fitness, family, finances and not just hang out because you're in proximity. That's where you can develop and deepen a real quality relationship.

Speaker 2:

That helped me turn a leaf in my own story of being open to his efforts and actually opening up and sharing who I was authentically, and so Alan was one of the first guys in my life that I truly let in the door, and to this day he's one of my best friends in the world. Because of him, every other male friendship I have has a chance, because he was the first man that stepped out and said I'm going to teach you what this looks like, because you suck. I want to give a barometer here for guys to measure whether they have friendships or not. If your friendship requires an extracurricular activity for the friendship, is it a friendship?

Speaker 1:

This is the High Value man Conversation Podcast, a show dedicated to the mission of building high value men. One great man means a great family, a great neighborhood, a better city, community state and the world. The question is if not you, then who? Welcome back to the High Value man Conversation. This is episode 27, titled Brothers Are Busters. Do you have the kind of brotherhood, friendship and relationship with men that will bust through a wall?

Speaker 2:

Wall door, roof. Bust you when you're a fool.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, bust you around to make sure that you are living your very best life. Yep, I love this. I think, to tee up this episode, we've got some scripture that we're going to start out with.

Speaker 2:

We do. We have a story, a parable in the Bible that a lot of folks have heard of, but we want to read through it and I'll read through it briefly. It's out of the Gospel of Mark, second chapter, and I'm going to read verses one through 12. And then we're going to add some context to this story and then really break down what this Brothers Are Busters is all about. So for anyone that wants to turn with me, mark, chapter two, verse one A few days later, when Jesus again entered Capernaum, the people heard that he'd come home.

Speaker 2:

They gathered in such large numbers that there was no room left, not even outside the door. He preached the word to them. Some men came bringing him a paralyzed men, carried by four of them. Since they could not get him to Jesus because of the crowd, they made an opening in the roof above Jesus by digging through it and then lowered the mat the man was lying on. When Jesus saw their faith, he said to the paralyzed man Son, your sins are forgiven.

Speaker 2:

Now some teachers of the law were sitting there thinking to themselves why does this fellow talk like that? He's blaspheming. Who can forgive sins? But God alone. Immediately, jesus knew in his spirit that this is what they were thinking in their hearts. So he said to them why are you thinking these things? Which is easier to say to this paralyzed man, your sins are forgiven, or to say get up, take your mat and walk. Get up, take your mat and walk, but I want you to know that the son of man has authority on earth to forgive sins. So he said to the man I tell you, get up, take your mat and go home. He got up, took his mat and walked out in full view of them all. This amazed everyone and they praised God, saying we have never seen anything like this Powerful, it is very powerful.

Speaker 1:

So we're going to get some context, because I think the context really sets the tone for this story. Um capernaum busy town, right, not not a small town, busy town. Jesus, at this point in his ministry, is superstar jesus, like everyone has come around to see him, the he has built a ministry and discipleship. He's traveled all over and he's back in this town. It's packed, it's like a rock concert, like it is. The house is full, there are people everywhere in the streets and the only way they can get this guy in to see Jesus is literally busting through the roof. Yes, yes, yeah.

Speaker 2:

And this isn't just a thin roof, right? No, this is think of this time. So the houses at this time were all single story with flat roof. So everyone you lived inside the dwelling. But the flat roof is typically what you use for storage and where women typically would go to do household chores like doing laundry.

Speaker 1:

It had to be weight-bearing.

Speaker 2:

It was definitely weight-bearing, so it was made of mud and straw at that point, but essentially it was concrete of the time. So it had to be at least a foot and a half thick or thicker, just depending on the size of the home. Now Jesus had a ocean side home, which is good for him. He was not poor at this point. He had a large home and you can go visit it if you like off the Sea of Galilee. But yes, it's a very thick roof. So just think in your head a foot and a half of concrete.

Speaker 1:

So these four guys take their paralyzed friend dead weight travel.

Speaker 2:

We don't know how far. I love this part about the Bible. I think the Bible is very intentional about the information it gives us, but it's also vague in areas where it allows us to be curious. And so it says that four men carried a paralytic man. I have helped carry a dead man out of a river, and it was myself and one other person. That scenario is a whole nother story. But to carry the dead weight of a body is a lot, and so I think to myself of these guys that carried a dead weight man on a mat, so think a large blanket. And the Bible doesn't tell us how far in our heads we can think it's a block. But it could have been 10 miles, we don't know.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's not like they had Uber back then, the city of Capernaum is a lot like the city that we live in, like Dallas.

Speaker 1:

Like you talked about.

Speaker 2:

It was a place of commerce. There was a military installation there. It wasn't a small seaside tribe that just did fishing. This place was the economic center of all of Galilee. This is a city, so these guys could have traveled quite a distance, and in my head I think maybe even a couple of miles trying to carry this guy to get to Jesus's house.

Speaker 2:

And the amount of effort and decision that it took. I mean some decisiveness of foreman. That said, regardless of what it takes, we're going to get you there. And to carry dead weight that long I mean I'm 250 pounds Can you imagine carrying me a couple of miles, even with three strong buddies? You're going to be worn out, your hands are going to hurt and be exhausted, You'll be hungry, You'd be thirsty, but they chose to see it through, and when they got there, against all odds, the house is full.

Speaker 2:

So then, what they decided? Well, we come this far, what's next? Now we've got to carry this dead weight up a flight of stairs, so anywhere from. You know, eight to potentially 13, 14 feet of of of five stairs onto a flat roof, and now you've got a foot and a half or more of concrete. They didn't have sledgehammers. Back then they didn't have a hammer. You know air pump hammers back then. So you grab a pick and I don't know how long it took them, but if you're going to lower a man through, a hole it's got to be at least three foot wide by six foot.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean, it's got to be big enough to get the whole thing down there. And so I think these guys were working for a while. I mean, just beating the snot out of the, out of the home of someone they don't even know, yeah, it didn't matter, I don't care whose house this is, we're getting through, yeah, so that just type of friendship and decisiveness of regardless, against all odds, we are going to be there for you in your moment. And these guys saw it through and like what a picture of what friendship can look like.

Speaker 2:

And because the majority of men don't understand what true friendship looks like, that's what this is all about is understanding. To be a brother, you've got to be a buster, you've got to be willing to do the uncomfortable, have the difficult conversations, maybe be physically aggressive with a man, because even recently I put out that I was in a certain emotional state and I needed some guys to come over and physically help me get my mind right. But just having that type of relationship is the true picture of what friendship is Friendships that challenge you, stretch your thinking, challenge your own philosophies, hold you to a higher standard and then we'll celebrate your victories. I think the beauty in Aaron and the relationship that we have because we've had a relationship now for a couple of years is that the picture of great relationship is to be able to be fully authentic, like completely transparent. And one thing you harp about so often that men need is intrusive accountability. Sure.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah. Well, think about two. You know the other side of this is the dead weight man. You know that represents a guy that is also. He was probably brought with maybe a little bit of resistance but also a willingness to let other guys carry the weight for you. There are seasons we all go through, and the metaphor of that is not just his physical paralysis, but plenty of men in our life and our circle will go through mental or emotional paralysis where they just need somebody to kick them in the butt and carry them. And so there's also the willingness on the other side where the guy said, yes, I want to do this trip with you guys, I'm not going to fight you the whole way on it.

Speaker 2:

And I've realized and I'm so grateful that I've got friendships like that the beauty behind this metaphor, I think, aaron, is that these men decided to do something for another man in a moment where he could do nothing for himself. Yeah, that's good, right. His circumstance had him in a place where he had no options, no other choices. He was just stuck. And how many men feel like they're in scenarios where they're just stuck? They're stuck in their marriage, they're stuck in their relationship with their children, especially if they have adult children that that, uh, they no longer really have relationship with, stuck in their finances. I've been doing the same thing for decades and I can't get out of debt. Um, and just doing life alone and not not having another man pursue them, or for them to pursue another man, to establish a relationship so that they don't do it alone. There's a whole beauty behind this high value man community, as we've chosen to link arms in brotherhood and do this thing together, and it makes us more powerful than anything else on the planet.

Speaker 1:

Amen, so good, good, okay. So that is the picture of possibility, of what a great friendship looks like. How, how do we get there?

Speaker 2:

I love that.

Speaker 1:

How do we get to you know, be able to recognize that we need that, but also how do we get to show up as the guy carrying the map? But also in the seasons where we've got some dead weight, where we can say yes and know that we're supported, Like what's step one in having a great group of friends.

Speaker 2:

I want to give a barometer here for guys to measure whether they have friendships or not, and then we'll step into some of these tools. If your friendship requires an extracurricular activity for the friendship, is it a friendship? So, for you and I to hang out. We've got to watch a game If you and I. For you and I to hang out and have a good time you know we've got to barbecue and drink beers. If you and I had a good, have a good time we have to have.

Speaker 2:

you know, we have to be involved in the softball team on the weekends, but we don't have any other contact outside of that. Is this really a friendship? No, you're living out an established acquaintanceship. It's not a friendship. True friendship requires this of To have a friend, you have to first be a friend.

Speaker 2:

That's good. And this is where the mass majority of men miss it. One, because we don't know the definition of friendship. And two, we don't know or we ignore the fact that it requires something from us. So, just like if you're in a romantic relationship or you're married, at some point you saw something.

Speaker 2:

A woman caught your eye and you decided dibs, that one's mine. And you went above and beyond, extravagantly, to get to know her, know what makes her tick, know what she likes. You pursued her through probably sweet messages, texts, frequent phone calls. You probably bought her flowers, you probably put on your best clothes. You did all these things for her to pursue her heart and in the same regard, for a great friendship, a man must pursue with that much effort and intent to build a true friendship with another man. So tool one number one, tool number one, is to have a great friend. You have to first be a great friend. It's good. No man, generally speaking, is going to come seek you out because you think you're great. If you want a great friendship, you've got to choose the man and go after him. It's good. So pursuit.

Speaker 1:

So I I jotted down from our notes is awareness that you need it, you want it, Awareness of the type of qualities you're looking for, Awareness of the of the type of values that that friendship you know has and prioritizes the vision that are living, and then deep, intentional pursuit. The pursuit is the biggest part of it. You know, and you've got so many great examples of men that have pursued you in relationship and it's now a fruitful part of the life that you're living.

Speaker 2:

It's one of the greatest gifts I really do. This has nothing to do with my financial situation. I am a rich man. I have a great family. I have a very loving marriage. It's fun and playful and peaceful. I have two beautiful children, with more on the way.

Speaker 2:

But one of the great gifts of my life is I have men that I know that are, that are more than just on my side. They truly care for me, love me, they're willing to bust me up if I need it and they will break down a wall for me if I ever needed it. To eight, two o'clock in the morning, If I made a call, there's a dozen men I knew that would answer. I know that would answer and come running, and so for that I'm truly a rich man. So all these, all these tools are things that I've I've learned put to use my own life. I know we we use quite a bit of this in our own relationship, which is why we have the closeness that we do. We're two very, very, very masculine men that are happy to jack someone up, but we also are able to be very tender and open and authentic and transparent with one another, which is honestly what makes this relationship as fruitful as it is.

Speaker 1:

For sure. Give these guys an example of Alan. I think that friendship pursuit story is so great. Also, you know the net effect of I believe the timeline on this is is Alan pursued you as a friend. You you've learned some of the skills of how to become a better friends of men and then you had somebody pursue in a different season where you could support them in a friendship as well.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. So Alan's a very special man in my life, near and dear, because up until this is seven to eight years ago I was talking to Aaron about this before we hit record is that every real friendship outside of my wife and my life were all women. I could get along with a woman, I can make friendship with a woman, but I had no idea how to be a friend to a man, which is why I had none. The friendships I had that were male at that point were all dependent upon my checkbook. You know, I had the boat, I had the jacked up truck, I could go and I could fund parties, and so people would show up, and so those were my friends, or my bar, my bar buddies, but before Alan there was, there was nobody. Alan is a gift from God in my mind, because we met at a church event. For some reason he saw something in me that he liked.

Speaker 2:

He asked me for my number, which I thought that's fine, people do that all the time. And uh, later that week he called me, which I thought was strange. But he called me just to ask me. You know how I was doing and what was up. I gave him very generic answers. The phone call was probably all the 55 seconds because of me. I was, it was awkward and I wanted to get off the phone. Like why is this guy calling me? But Alan continued to call me probably three to maybe four times a week, every week for about six months and it drove me nuts. I was going this is weird, I don't know what, what kind of guy is this guy. And it took me about six months before I, before I got it. I got it.

Speaker 2:

This man was pursuing me for an actual relationship and this is a picture of what relationship looks like. Um, at one point our phone calls I'll never forget this Alan said to me he goes I really like you but you suck as a friend. And I had nothing to say because he was right. I knew that I did and uh, that helped me turn, turn a leaf in my own, my own story of being open to, to uh, his efforts and actually opening up and sharing who I was authentically, uh, becoming more transparent to things that I was struggling with.

Speaker 2:

And so Alan was one of the first guys in my life that I truly let in the door and to this day, where he's one of my best friends in the world, we actually do do, we do business and construction together, so he's blessed me in that world too. But Alan was the first man that really said you know what I'm going to. I want to establish a relationship with you that's more than just Facebook deep or proximity deep. I'm going to, I'm going to pursue you. That's good, and he did it. Because of him, every other male friendship I have has a chance, because he was the first man that stepped out and said I'm going to teach you what this looks like. Cause you suck.

Speaker 1:

It's good Love that there's that intrusive accountability, there's the pursuit, there's the awareness and I think probably one of the biggest blessings is just the consistency, you know, showing up. I think a lot of guys are resistant to having friends. Maybe they've been hurt down, they've been burned, they've been a bad friend. They don't understand what it goes into the actual relationship building. But he's very consistent, you know, and when we see consistency in another man that helps us build the trust, the respect and eventually open up and be authentic, that's good, very powerful Love. That, yeah, that's good, very powerful Love. That what, uh, what are some things that, uh, our, our listeners or guys can do? If they're they're realizing that they maybe can't name their four guys that might carry the mat for them, um, other than be a great friend, how can they get themselves around? The right people Start becoming a better friend. What are some of the things that have worked for you?

Speaker 2:

Here's a great filter. It's a good question. A great filter for men is a lesson that we've both been taught is that friendships are for one of three reasons. They're for a reason, a season or a lifetime. A friend for a reason is very circumstantial and situational. They come in, they're part of something and then they're gone. We have lots of those For a season. We can often think about our youth. We all had friends growing up with that we probably played with as youths Military, military or even went to college with. That was in a season. We've all gone on to life and live in different places, and so we have those contacts but we're not in contact. So we're not in contact right. So that's a friend for a season.

Speaker 2:

A friend for a lifetime is someone like an Allen that says I see something in you, I know we're running in the same general direction. There's something about you that I want part of my life and we actively and decisively choose to weave that man into our life and then pursue them with the same awareness and effort that we pursued a woman. And so for one, the barometer there is. You have to decide when you think of a man. Is he for a reason, is he for a season or is he for a lifetime? And if he's potentially for a lifetime, then you have to decide in yourself that I'm going to pursue that man Early in our relationship. Aaron, there's so many things about you that are honorable and I love, but I told you I'm going to pursue you and I've done that. I've chosen that, um, I've chosen that that you are going to be more than a friend for a season. Right, I'm, I'm believing that you're gonna be a friend for a lifetime. Only time will tell if that's true or not, but we're certainly living a life as if that'll be the case. And so, um, what can, what can men do?

Speaker 2:

As far as that is is, if you can't think of a man you're, we're all living life in some community, whether it's a man at work, whether it's a man in the church you go to, whether it's a man you're on a softball team with. You find a man that has a piece of what you want in your life. So, whether it's his marriage, the relationship with his kids, his financial situation, whatever it may be, doesn't have to be the full picture, but he has something in his life that you know, that you want. You pursue him for those reasons and it's not just because I want to get something out of you. I want to get his, I want to.

Speaker 2:

Basically, you're choosing to get in another man's draft by serving him, by loving on him, by celebrating him and by being the type of friend that you wish he would be to you. You have to go first, but I think being the intentional side, about being decisive about it and realizing that one the biggest point here is that a friendship is not just based on proximity and alcohol and sports. It's based on the life that another man's living and the life that you want for yourself, which kind of goes back to our core values.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so good. Yeah, a hundred percent, you know, identifying the vision of life you want to create the family you want to have the legacy you're going to leave behind the core values of who you say that you are and who you want to create the family you want to have the legacy you're going to leave behind the core values of who you say that you are and who you want to become, and then choosing your relationships with intentionality, for reason, rather than just okay, we're in proximity. I've known him for 10 years. We did the college or the military thing together. I should be very intentional about it, but what I love about what you shared that really stands out is the intention behind it.

Speaker 1:

Just like in dating, there's no difference in your pursuit of your woman than there should be in your relationship and pursuit of high quality, high value men. And the truth of it, too, is you know guys that will become great friends in your life. They will require a certain standard of the relationship and the friendship. You know any man that is pursuing vision, with core values, he's not going to be hanging out at the bar. And so part of that, too, is you might need to change your social circles. Social circles. Social circles, you might need to change the things you're doing, the habits, the behaviors, the action. If you want a high quality, deep, epic friendship and relationship, you might need to put yourself in different rooms.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, for sure, we've all heard this that you're the average of the five guys you spend the most time with, and so that plays out here. And if your only goal is to be around millionaires, well you might become a millionaire, but the rest of your life is going to suck. You've got to get around guys that have that already, have established great relationships, that have a great marriage, that have a family that you want, that have a lifestyle that's peaceful, and pursue those and get those five guys in your circle. Give yourself five to 10 years and see where you are. You'll probably have a bunch of ducklings behind you trying to wean from what you've now learned, and, for anyone that has children, you hope that one of those ducklings is your children.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so good, so good Rooms to get into. So you guys know that we're actively a part of Mighty Men Movement every Saturday morning, dallas, texas. You know, feel free to join us up in Frisco at our church, elevate Life. But that is the kind of room where there are epic relationships and friendships to be built on. It's all built on the foundation of core values family, of course, faith and putting God first, and so, you know, putting yourself in rooms where you're the new guy, like that's the first place to start.

Speaker 1:

If you can't come out to Frisco and join us, the High Valley man community is another room to be in. You know, what I love so much about our Wednesday time together is not only the podcast, but we start the morning in our High Valley man morning men's call, you know, and that's an opportunity to connect with guys from all across the country and build an established relationship. There's absolutely no reason that you can't partner up, do life. I consider the men in that group very close friends, even though I haven't met all of them in person, and that's the beauty behind it. When you have vision, core values and alignment, you have the openness of conversation, transparency, when you're able to really talk about things that matter faith, fitness, family finances and not just hang out because you're in proximity. That's where you can develop and deepen a real quality relationship.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and there's templates to model in there, which is what all men need. We think to ourselves that I can figure this out or I know how to be a friend. You might think you do and if you listen to this, you might have some, some, some ideas of how to do it, but the greatest way to to guarantee yourself success is to be in a room with other men that can actively be templates for you, that are already living it. Just attach to them, get in their draft and begin to model or mirror what they're doing, and that will give you. That will give you the breadcrumbs you need to get down the road to where you want to be. Love it.

Speaker 1:

Love it Great. Go be a friend first. So takeaway that you can do is open up your phone and run through your Rolodex, your digital Rolodex, and see any relationships that maybe you've lost touch with Cause remember to have great friends. You got to be a great friend first and so spend some time just flipping through and see if there's anybody that you can reach out to of the Holy spirit. Guide you in this and just start to reestablish some relationship. Be in pursuit of it, but also challenge yourself. But put yourself in new rooms. Put yourself in the room. We've got a free, high value man community that will support you and deepening relationship with high quality men. Come visit us in Frisco, like we had somebody fly out from Florida.

Speaker 2:

Two guys. Two guys Met on Instagram and they said I love what you guys are doing there. I want to know if this is legit. Yeah, Very next weekend. They surprised us. They hopped a flight from Orlando to spend the weekend with us. It was very impactful. Now we're tethered for life.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah. So be willing to bust through a wall, be the kind of guy that's willing to bust through the current barriers and limitations. You have put yourself in new rooms, cause that's where the blessings, that's where the miracles really happen, for sure?

Speaker 2:

Uh, the last piece I'll give here. That's a gut punch and I want to, not that I need with a woman or your spouse. You have to first have that with a man. You have to first have that with a man so many men out there that they're the only real relationship that knows them, or knows 80% of who they are. 90% of who they are is their wife. Um, because a man hasn't truly experienced what authenticity and transparency looks like and, to be honest with you, our wives aren't designed to carry that weight for us. That's good A man is.

Speaker 2:

Unfortunately, statistics and the data shows us that our fathers, although well-intended, did not leave us a template of what friendship looks like. They probably left us a template of what pulling up our bootstraps and working hard is, which will only get you so far down the road. So the biggest part of this also is to be linked to men, for the simple fact of if you, if you ever truly want to have a great relationship with a woman, you have to have that first established with a man. So the man, the men in our lives, that we're intricately tied to, that we choose to do life with that. We choose to be a model or a template for the lifestyles that we want.

Speaker 2:

Uh will challenge us. They are a place for. They are a place for us to have an anble to beat our lives on. There are certain things and conversations and I'll say, life detours that men experience that only a man can understand, that only a man can walk with you and talk with you through that, and that's what creates the foxhole type relationship with another man. And so it won't. It's very rare for a man to only have a wife in his life as a true, uh confidant, and no other men in his life in that relationship. Be great. So if you ever, if you just want, if you want to have a very successful marriage, you have to first have a very successful friendship.

Speaker 1:

That's so true.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

You're at the end of the day, and we've said this and we'll continue to show this, but your, your wife's, number one need is safety and security, right, and so if you're walking through the Valley, in business or fitness or whatever it is, whatever challenge you're facing, and you bring your burdens to the relationship, that's going to that's, that's going to cause some challenge with her safety and security and so it's going to put you in a position where you're not in the leadership role. And that's why the relationship with a friend, first and foremost, should be that place that you are open, honest, transparent. Get the intrusive accountability, get your um, get yourself checked in such a way so you can get recalibrated, so you can bring that safety and security back to the relationship.

Speaker 2:

Sure, and in relationship especially with men, is masculinity, needs masculinity. So, if you don't have another man in your life and you take your masculine based issues to a feminine woman, you're non-verbally expecting her to step into her masculinity, which requires her to leave her own safety and security to try to meet you there. And women will try to do it. They really will.

Speaker 1:

For sure that will. That will fizzle out any polarity attraction. Um you know, sexy time and romance.

Speaker 2:

Yep For sure. If you want your wife to remain feminine one, I don't. I don't want, I don't want listeners to hear, not to tell your, your spouse or your wife about the, about the problems. They have the right to know. That is a that is a prerequisite of a good relationship. But it's not there. It's not there cross to carry to walk with you in that. That's a place only made for another man. Again, masculinity needs masculinity. So tell your spouse about it, but then also tell her that you've exposed that thing to whatever man this is, and that you are working with them to hash through these things together, and that you are working with them to hash through these things together, so one that gives her security, and that you know you're not being a weakling and going to sit over in the corner and just frizzle and die and suck, but that you're going to work through your issues, become a better man for her, but you're doing alongside a better man, and that will breed for any man respect, which is our number one need.

Speaker 2:

So if you want to be respected. That's the template to do it.

Speaker 1:

Love it, love it Awesome. All right. So you guys have a call to action run through your Rolodex, find out how you can be a better friend to those that may. They will definitely need you and then get yourself inside of our community. Free, high value man community, join the conversation, get around the tribe where we're having conversations like friendship, faith, family, fitness and finances. You can level up and become the example of the world so desperately needs. For sure, we want to see you win. Amen, much love, many blessings. We'll talk to you guys soon, boom.

Speaker 2:

We off the podcast. Get back to the fucking mental lab.